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 +====== Background information ======
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 +  * Steven Tanzer, in Issue 49 of the IWC (Jul/Aug 93) describes Verget'​s batonnage and sulphiting regime as follows: "​Guffens keeps his wines on their lees even after the malolactic fermentation (a la Lafon), and the purity of his lees allows Guffense to continue to "​batonner."​ This longer and more thorough lees contact... protects them by keeping them in an oxyreductive state. As a result, Guffens does not need to add sulphur after the fermentation."​
 +  * In vintage 1996: extensive batonnage done. At the end of May 97, when Tanzer visited, "​Guffens was still performing a monthly batonnage of the '​96'​s - a '​refreshment stirring,'​ in his words, meant to take the place of sulphur treatments."​
 +  * In a February 17, 2004 posting on the Squires Board, Guffens admits that this was an error: "The vintages of 94/95/96 were the most exposed to this [premature oxidation], meanly (sic) because of a very low sulfuring. As some wines went over the edge too quickly, I decided starting from 97 to sulfur a little bit more and to reduce elevage in the barrel."​ [[http://​dat.erobertparker.com/​bboard/​showthread.php?​t=32003|[Link to Squires Board Post]]]
 +  * In vintage 1999: claims no batonnage done. (Don Cornwell ed. note: Guffens learned a difficult lesson, but those of you with 1995 and 1996 Vergets in your cellar are the ones who paid the price for it.)
 +  * In vintage 2004: no information on primary batonnage regime. According to Stephen Tanzer, the wines "were slated to go into round-bottomed concrete vats in July [2005], where they could remain on their lees without contact with oxygen for the rest of the summer (Guffens will not stir the lees or add suplur during this period); they will then continue to age reductively until the cold weather of winter."​
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 +====== Wines ======
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 +===== 1995 =====
 +
 +  * **Chablis Montee de Tonnerre** (21 Jun 2003): oxidized [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Montee de Tonnerre** (18 Jul 2003): not oxidized this time, but not impressive [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (26 May 2004): completely oxidized [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (22 Jul 2004): partly oxidized: full blown deep gold color and some smoky, partly maderized notes [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (25 Jan 2004): not oxidized this time [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (01 Jul 2005): oxidized [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (November 2003): Great! Rich, precise, terrific mouthfeel, very Grand Cru [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chassagne Morgeot V.V.** (July 2003): Oxidized, candied flavors [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chassagne La Romanée** (October 2003): Tiring a bit, maybe; good, not great [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Corton Charlemagne** (September 2003): Not oxidized, very good intensity and flavor, slightly drying finish (oak?) [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Corton Charlemagne** (December 2003): Fab, not oxidized, minerally, distinctive [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Corton Charlemagne** (August 2009): Oxidized. [AT Bridge]
 +  * **Meursault** (May 2005) Not oxidized; fresh, with good focus [David Honig]
 +  * **Meursault Les Charmes** (July 2003): Not oxidized, very good, bright, rich, very white Burgundy [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Puligny Sous Les Puits** (September 2003): Somewhat oxidized, past its peak, candied flavor [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Puligny Sous le Puits** (April 2005): Tiring, possibly somewhat oxidized [David Honig]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (May 2007): oxidized [René Gleissner]
 +\\ 
 +===== 1996 =====
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 +  * **Batard-Montrachet** (Aug 2005): oxidized, sherry. A shame b/c of the unbelievably concentrated backbone [Paul]
 +  * **Chablis Bougrots** (Mar, Apr & Sep 2004): not oxidized, clearly outstanding each time [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Chablis Bougrots** (2005): (3 bottles) not oxidized, crisp and steely, outstanding [Alan Weinberg]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (June 2005) slightly oxidized; not flabby but losing its celebrated definition [David Honig]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (28 Apr 2005): controversial,​ I thought slightly oxidized [Carl Steefel]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (Aug 2011): not oxidized, ready [ R Younger ]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (Dec 2011): not oxidized, excellent still [R Younger]
 +  * **Chablis Fourchaume** (Feb 2006): slightly oxidized, with just a slight aftertaste of sherry on the finish, though still a rich enough wine to be worth drinking, though it probably won't last much longer [Steve Malanga]
 +  * **Chablis Fourchaume** (June 2006): Not oxidized. Fresh, very bright, still young [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chablis Fourchaume** (Sep 2006): Perhaps slightly oxidized. Rather lean but not bad [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chablis Montee de Tonnerre** (Sep-Nov-Dec 2005): opened 3 and every G*d-damned bottle has been oxidized [Michel Robert Abood]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (21 Oct 2005): very sherry on the nose and quickly (<30 min) collapsed into undrinkable [Andrew Hall]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (Jan 2006): although not oxidised, very evolved, heavy and dull [JE Simond]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (25 Feb 2006): not oxidised, yeast autolysis, focused and crisp on second day [Mike During]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (25 Feb 2006): not oxidised and still going strong on 2nd day after 24 hours in the fridge [Dan Bailey]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (Dec 2006): Not oxidized. Quite nice, if not a bit heavy. [Poppy Davis]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (Feb 2007): Not oxidized, unbleached cork, really brilliant, terrific Chablis [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (May 2010): Not oxidized, quite crisp [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (July 2011): Oxidized - six bottles [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (28 Apr 2005): not oxidized, but not crisp and steely either [Carl Steefel]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (June 2005): an atypically huge wow wine, not oxidized [R Younger]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (July 2005): not oxidized, very fresh, rich, bright, deep. Excellent. [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (Jun 2008): 2 bottles not oxidized-tastes like big grand cru south of Beaune [R Younger]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (July 2011): Oxidized [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (Aug 2011): not oxidized, still fabulous [R Younger]
 +  * **Chablis Vaudesir** (22 Feb 2006): not oxidised and absolutely superb chablis [Dan Bailey]
 +  * **Chablis Vaudesir** (July 2011): Oxidized - five bottles, one of which was also corked [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Chassagne Montrachet La Romanee** (Sep-Dec 2005): (6 bottles) 5 clearly not oxidised (4 of these were absolutely superb) and 1 questionable [Dan Bailey]
 +  * **Chassange Montrachet Morgeots Vielles Vignes** (April 2006) 18 bottles opened for a dinner - __all 18 oxidized__ to some degree, some totally, others slightly, but all flawed and undrinkable [Will Gau]
 +  * **(Chassagne Montrachet La Maltroye** (July 2009); Not oxidized, Beautiful right now. [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Meursault Charmes VV** (Jan 2004): two bottles opened and completely oxidized [Don Cornwell]
 +  * **Meursault Charmes** (10 Feb 2006): too soft, slightly oxidized [H Steininger]
 +  * **Meursault Charmes** (Feb 2012): not oxidized, 96 acidity poking through a bit, very good (Adrian Latimer)
 +  * **Meursault Les Tillets** (July 2005): Excellent, very bright, intense, fresh, young [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Pouilly Fuisse Tete de Cuvee** (Dec. 2006): Oxidized, dark gold color, sweet/sour flavor, unbleached cork. [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Pouilly Fuisse Tete de Cuvee** (Jan 2007): Early oxidation; not unpleasant to drink[Frank Drew]
 +  * **Puligny Les Enseignères** (June 2005): Very bright, fresh, very Puligny, some oak but well integrated [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Puligny Les Enseignères** (July 2005): Not oxidized; fresh and satisfying [David Honig]
 +  * **Puligny Les Enseignères** (Oct 2007): Not oxidized; good, still some oak [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Puligny Les Enseignères** (Oct 2009): Fully mature, not oxidized; oak, fruit, acid, minerals still in balance; strong finish, but drink up soon [David Honig]
 +  * **Puligny Sous les Puits** (Jan 2007): Not oxidized; young, accurate, quite good [Frank Drew]
 +  * **St. Veran Tete de Cuvee** (March 2006, August 2006): Not oxidized, unbleached cork; lemony bright, still young but quite agreeable. [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Meursault Charmes VV** (May 2007): oxidized [René Gleissner]
 +  * == **Chassagne-Montrachet La Maltroie** (July 2009)**:** not oxidized [Bill Lawrence] ==
 +  * **Chassagne-Montrachet La Romanée** (May 2010): oxidized [Bill Lawrence]
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 +===== 1997 =====
 +
 +  * **St. Veran Tete de Cuvee** (Oct 2006, Nov 2006): Not oxidized, (saturated) unbleached cork, concentration making up for lowish acidity, very satisfying [Frank Drew]
 +  * **Meursault Poruzots** (02 Feb 2007): not oxidized, very good, young an mineral [J. Prandi]
 +  * **Puligny Sous le Puits** (2002 through 2007): eleven bottles over six years; utterly brilliant and focused at the beginning of the period, weakening each year; now distinctly oxidized despite adequate backbone and dry extract [David Honig]
 +  * **Puligny Sous Les Puits** (Mar 2008): slightly oxidised worsened with air[M. Burke]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (Jan. 2010): somewhat oxidized [H. Cooper]
 +  * **Chablis Valmur** (Jun 2016): not Premoxed, still superb [O. Viveier]
 +\\ 
 +===== 1998 =====
 +
 +  * **Corton-Charlemagne** (Jul 2005): Hopelessly oxidized; unpleasant [David Honig]
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 +===== 1999 =====
 +
 +  * **Chablis Fourchaume VV de Vaulorens** (2005): 2 bottles so far, no trouble [Steve Malanga]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros** (June 2008) slightly oxidized, but less noticeable than some samples of the 2000 version [David Honig]
 +  * Corton-Charlemagne (July 2011): can't compete for awfulness with the 1998 sample opened in '05 (noted above), but not holding up especially well [David Honig]
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 +===== 2000 =====
 +
 +  * **Bourgogne** (Jan 2009): suprisingly youthful; very good; no oxidation. [Ben Delancy]
 +  * **Meursault Les Tillets** (July 2010): Excellent, no oxidation [Bill Lawrence]
 +  * **Puligny-Montrachet "Sous les Puit"​** (January 2011): Oxidized - 6 bottles! [Bill Lawrence]
 +===== 2001 =====
 +
 +  * **Meursault Tete de Cuvee** (October 2007): Early oxidation, spoiled. [John Osburn]
 +  * **Puligny Sous les Puits** (Dec. 2009): Premoxed. Still creamy on the palate but badly maderized nose [Joe Floren]
 +\\ 
 +===== 2002 =====
 +
 +  * **Chablis Fourchaume** (July 2006): clean, not oxidised [Paul]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons** (Aug 2005): clean, young, no problem [Paul]. Still great in July 2007 [Ken Birman]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons VV de Minots** (7 July 2008): comes across as fully mature, drink up [Keith Akers]
 +  * **Chablis Vaillons VV des Minots** (18 Feb. 2010): early oxidation. Drinkable, but nothing compared to last bottle in July 2008. [David McMahon]
 +  * **Chablis Bougros Bouqueyreaud** (Nov 2007): seems fully mature, drink this baby up now! [Ken Birman]
 +  * **Corton Charlmagne**(Aug 2007): early signs of maderization. Still drinking well but won't last [Ken Birman]
 +  * **Corton Charlemagne** (Jan 2012): Color of an 09. No signs of oxidation at all. Delicious. [AT Bridge}
 +  * **Puligny-Montrachet "Sous les Puit"​** (Oct 2007): Clear signs of maderization. At its peak now -- drink up [Ken Birman]
 +  * **Chablis Montee de Tonnerre** (Jun 2008): clean, youthful; unbleached cork; drinking very well [Ben Delancy]
 +  * **Chablis Montee de Tonnerre** (May 2009): still very youthful; unbleached cork; very good bottle [Ben Delancy]
 +  * **Hospice de Beaune Meursault 1er Cru "Les Charmes"​** (June 2008): not oxidized. Drinking well [Garrett DeVries]
 +=====   =====
 +===== 2004 =====
 +
 +  * **Chablis La Forest** (July 2010): No premox [Michael Malinoski]
 +  * **Chablis La Clos** (Feb 2012): No premox, really nice, flinty [Suzane Camhi]
 +\\ 
 +===== 2005 =====
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 +  * **Meursault Les Tillets** (15 Jun 2011): two bottles, not oxidized [Peter von dem Borne]
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 +===== 2006 =====
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 +  * **Meursault Les Tillets** (17 Okt 2010): three bottles, not oxidized [Peter von dem Borne]
 +  * **Meursault Les Tillets** (7 Feb 2011): one oxidized, one not [Peter von dem Borne]
 +  * **Mâcon-Bussières Vieilles Vignes du Clos** (23 Okt 2011): three bottles, not oxidized [Peter von dem Borne]
 +Corton Charlmagne(Aug 2007\\ ​ Corton Charlmagne(Aug 2007\\ ​ Corton Charlmagne(Aug 2007\\ ​ Corton Charlmagne
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